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Body conciousness – 1

Body consciousness is the ABC’s of the work. Without this, we cannot do the rest. How do you know when you are in body consciousness? I know mainly when i’m not in the body consciousness. And how do you know that you’re not in? When i’m in inner considering. Yes, body consciousness and inner considering, …

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Body consciousness – 2

For years, you didn’t know what body consciousness was, did you? Not exactly, I knew what it was but I was not able to live it, and it was not like it is now. And what’s different now? I think now I’m more into welcoming. For me, the main obstacle was self-pity. What made you …

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Divided attention

Divided attention is when we share (or divide) the attention with 50% on body consciousness, and 50% on the visual and the auditory world around us. The same attention is now divided, a part more inward and a part on the outside. And this is done in an overall manner, de-focused. The attention given to …

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“I am” and self-remembering

If you are in body consciousness, you can feel “I am”. But it is no longer the I am of identity. It is a dis-identified “I am”. The work is to be in body consciousness, in divided attention with the “I am”. Of course, it is possible to speak while remaining in the body consciousness. …

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Procrastination

Not procrastinating allows us to welcome our destiny at each moment, going with (and not against) the dynamics of what everyday life imposes on us. Have you seen in yourself the reasons for your procrastination? What I suppose now, it is that there is a defense mechanism in myself that solidifies things. What are you …

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Procrastination – 2

I was really good at procrastinating. And it blew up in my face! Is it completely over now? Let’s say that I have it on leash. But there are things I don’t do right away. Yes, but it’s not necessarily from procrastination. It depends on the context. For me, often, it comes up and I …

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Wait and see versus procrastination

What is the difference between “wait and see” and procrastination? For me procrastination is to push to the back burner (for personal comfort or a personality leak) that which needs to be done right now, when “wait and see” would be not to rush things or provoke something, but to instead watch for a legitimate …

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Welcoming necessary suffering and crystalisation

If I should summarize the teaching in some words, I would say this: it is simple, when you feel a tension coming from identity, you welcome the necessary suffering and you wait that life proposes you something which crystallizes. The “welcome necessary suffering” is the practice that I consider most important in our work. If …

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Necessary suffering and unnecessary suffering

Vigilance is indispensable to avoid unnecessary suffering. When you’re in body consciousness, you feel immediately when you’re about to go into unnecessary suffering because it creates tension in the body. I’m not talking about muscle tension, it is something more subtle. Each time you welcome a necessary suffering, there is a transformation process and it …

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Living teaching

What is this teaching, for you? Not his definition, but how do you live the teaching personally? Two words that come up: self-emptying and true nature. The specificity of this teaching compared to other teachings is its application, which is not through intellectual understanding… When I compare to the teachings like classical Advaita, there are …

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External considering

Body consciousness and divided attention are prerequisites for external considering. I feel that some are using it wrongly or they are making a concept out of it. But this is not a concept, it is a gesture. What is external considering for you? Taking into account the other. For example, putting a needed tool between …

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External considering, continued

External considering (e.c.) is putting the other at the same level as myself. This goes back to the idea that all is equally important. And that means doing it without inner considering, that is without reading thoughts, without judgment or prejudice, and overall without the “what will he think about me if I do this …

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Detachment or indifference?

How can one know that what one is living is detachment or indifference? It seems to me essential to correctly understand this notion because I don’t think I can really be in external considering otherwise. I don’t have the impression of having a sort of internal alarm that indicates to me that in this case …

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About fear

What is the absence of fear? If I act without fear, there is personal responsibility, no self-interest and lack of internal considering. What is the link between self-interest and fear? If there is no self-interest and internal considering, I don’t see how I can be afraid. What came to me is: relaxing and lack of …

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Compassion and love

As far as I remember, we never talked about compassion. So I invite you to share your comprehension of compassion. My guess is compassion involves a very pure emotional center. At an intellectual level I always liked Osho’s poetic and visual metaphor (my memory of what I read at least) that love was an eternally …

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Personal interest and desires

Let’s talk about self-interest. How do we define it? This is closely linked with body consciousness and fear. The first thing is that when I’m in personal interest, I feel a contraction, I lose body consciousness and it is often related to fear, especially the fear of missing something. We cannot judge self-interest through behavior, …

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Daring to question oneself

Context: this exchange concerns mainly a person recently arrived in the group to whom the meeting was one of the first. The sharings of this person are marked with G. at the start line. How was this meeting for you? G. It helped me understand certain things like the concept of body consciousness. And also …

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Transmission

Let’s talk about transmission. One can distinguish between transmission of skills and transmission in this teaching but basically they are quite similar. Exercise: Transmission of competence Transmission has two sides: the instructor who has the knowledge and the apprentice who wants to acquire it. 1. The instructor – when alone doing what he will convey …

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Existential breakthrough

Tell us about your existential breakthrough, when you were 19 years old. I was in the Marines, we were out for a drink, on our way there was a fountain in the middle of the walkway. The normal thing to do would be to walk around it. However, I thought I would do a funny …

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The real and the false life

When I was a little girl I would live existential breakthroughs and afterwards they were gone again. There is a saying that goes: “to give is giving. To take it back, is stealing.” I told myself that it was not enough to receive these existential gifts only to have them taken away again. With the …

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The impersonal

Someone used the term “impersonal”. Can we talk about that more? When I’m in body consciousness, there is a structure called G., but there is nobody inside. It’s like a shadow. As in an envelope? There’s nothing in it? Not nothing, but 99% vacuum. Another way of saying this is that at some point, I’m …

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Sincerity

Stephen Jourdain said: “never lie to yourself”, I would like to understand what it means really. Each time L. refers to sincerity, I’m wondering what she is talking about. And you, what does it mean to you? It speaks to me thus: lying to oneself is a mental gesture, a particular sort of buffer, it …

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Perfectionism versus doing things conciensciously

What is the difference between perfectionism and conscientiousness? Perfectionism seems to me, to be oriented to the result, with tension and inner consideration. Doing conscientiously is doing with awareness of maintaining the quality of movement till the end, regardless of the looks of others. Doing things conscientiously means doing what must be done to feed …

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Hope

I observed today that I have been living in a subtle prison of hope. Instead of proactively engaging life, I hide in a hope for life. It now feels like a cheap replacement for genuine trust in life and myself. If anyone has any insights or experience with “hope” I would appreciate to hear them. …

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On humility

I took a little break while I was at work, and my mouse clicks brought me to this quote from Rodney Collin, which I thought I should share with all of you: “True humility is connected with giving up the luxury of worrying about ourselves. It makes no difference whether it is in the form …

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Real and false detachment

I have questions about detachment: if I decide to “not care” about outer events at all, I tend to enter a space of detachment, where perceptions are not judged upon, and I feel “at home” with myself. Although it intuitively feels right, I still hesitate or feel ambivalent: it is as if I shut myself …

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On the relation with the teacher

During a small meeting at the end of one of our meetings when most had already left we spoke about me as “normal human being” and me as teacher. I said that there is no difference for me and if it is a subject it belongs to those for whom it is an interrogation to …

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Symbiosis

I invite everyone to write about the relationship between: symbiosis – everything is equally important – non-separation. A relational symbiosis is characterized by a high degree of attention and vigilance in all the interactions one engages in, with the other person. This creates a sensitivity to all aspects of what is going on and also …

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To step into the other one’s mocassins

A smooth running of the emotional center equals absence of inner considering, presence of the external considering with a peculiarity in the external considering: we can also put ourselves in the skin of other. We already touched it a little with the “symbiosis” topic and more specifically, when we spoke of thinking of the consequences …

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Bad faith

What to do when one has to deal with someone who expresses bad faith (in the sense of intentional deceit)? I see two cases: one case involves someone with whom we are not really emotionally or functionally involved with. The other case is with someone we may be close to or have an ongoing relationship …

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To take care

Yesterday, I was passing walnut oil on the green table, and someone saw me doing that: “Well, we feed the plastic now?” Well, yes, plastic needs to be fed. Passing the oil, I really felt that it was a good thing for the plastic table! There is a notion of caring, not to do that …

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Intervals – 1

Everyone is familiar with octaves in musical compositions. According to Gurdjieff and Pythagoras, they represent a universal law of harmony. Each note in the scale corresponds to harmonious action. The caveat to this law is that in the projects and endeavors we take on, we must be able to correctly manage the issues that can …

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Intervals – 2

We continue with intervals. If I was to have in mind all of the actions involved in an activity before starting it, could I avoid running into blocks in the E-F intervals? Would I be able to complete the task straight through to the end? The E-F is inevitable, and we must not try to …

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Contingencies

We have already spoken of the intervals encountered in the octave. It is now known that in any project there will be intervals, hence obstacles to be crossed. But there are also other obstacles that are not intervals. They are unpredictable forces that you cannot control: the car that breaks down, for example. It can …

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It’s life that decides

“Let life decide, it’s life that decides.” These sentences (which refer to the existential level) were spoken from time to time at our meetings, and an interesting question was raised: how do we know that “it’s life which decides”? When I feel that “life decides,” it is associated with acceptance, trust, relaxation. If I am …

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Reliability

To think that what I do can have consequences for the other, it is part of the body consciousness. Is it not external consideration? No, external consideration arises in the moment. When I move something, when I take a tool, for example, what consequences can it have for the other? If he needs this tool …

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Habits and Reassembly after waking up

This morning when I woke up, I called myself “good for nothing.” I was not welcoming the necessary suffering, on the contrary I even added a little. It’s rare now that I tell myself so. Yesterday, however, I felt good. It happens when you focus on well-being. The problem is not your well-being, but the …

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Permanence versus Impermanence

(To N.) Do you manage to stay centered? Not always. And what happens when you’re not centered? There are tensions and fears that arise. What is the essential fear? The essential fear is to be unloved, it seems to me. What could I do to make you feel unloved? For example, you could tell me …

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