Note: the blue italics indicates the teacher, in black other participants.

The impersonal

Someone used the term “impersonal”. Can we talk about that more?

When I’m in body consciousness, there is a structure called G., but there is nobody inside. It’s like a shadow.

As in an envelope? There’s nothing in it?

Not nothing, but 99% vacuum. Another way of saying this is that at some point, I’m no longer there. There is action, but not the belonging. This is not empty, because there is a specificity that makes that the action that I’ll do, has a tint, but it’s not me. I use “I” because there is no other word. It is difficult to express it, it is a sensation.

When you look in the mirror, you see yourself or not?

I see a body that looks at me.

When I look at myself, there is a feeling of strangeness.

Are we talking about dis-identification?

It’s part of impersonality.

That reminds me that when I do certain actions, it is done. I do not care how this is done.

It’s like with body consciousness, when you’re in, you do not realize, like a fish in water. It’s the same when you intervene, it passes through you, but it’s not premeditated, and it’s sometimes surprising. But also very relaxing.

Because there is no tension, no doubt.

It is to act in relation to the context and not in relation to the ego, by occulting oneself, to bring the best in the interaction.

For me, impersonal means that there is no grip. If there is pain, there is no contraction.

Is it that being in body consciousness, makes you into an impersonal person?


There is one thing that goes with it, it is that the internal states are no longer important.

When we navigate through life as an impersonal person, it’s a little unreal.

Speaking of an impersonal person is already too much, because there are only actions.

Then, an impersonal non-person 😉

In daily life, when there is no issue, I do not feel the outline if myself, I float. And when it is associated with a responsibility, then there is a sort of contour.

Can we say then, that we are alone with oneself?

Rather alone with no-one!

In the impersonal, we are getting closer to the baby’s perception.

The baby lives the impersonal, but unconsciously. The adult loses the impersonal, but gains consciousness. And then we find anew this impersonal, but with consciousness.

The impersonal goes with impermanence. The ego is based on the illusion of the body’s permanence and of what goes with it. Once you recognize the impermanence, you understand the falseness and the illusion of the ego.